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Old 05-06-2008
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Phew! After posting, I had to step back and remember just who my collegues are and that not everyone here lives in the U.S. and that I am not the kind of person that boycotts items imported from other countries. I love discounts and shopping at Wal-Mart and Target, but I have to admit, I do own one item from SAKS...Well, ok, it was actually bought from a SAKS outlet in FL and is just a teeny tiny umbrella that I paid $30+ for (I just had to get something...lol).

Anyhow, maybe $3 per hour is plenty to get by on, but if you could charge even $20 U.S. and be rich. Why wouldn't you? I know I would...lol
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I was just thinking about this the other day. I understand that some businesses can't afford anything above $3 an hour for administrative work and I think it's kinda nice that they have another option. I mean look at us (VAs). A lot of us are doing things on a shoestring budget so I can relate to that standpoint.

However, it's when larger businesses and even big corporations that are making millions do this. That really makes me angry. They could very well afford to pay $30-$45 per hour to someone like us to do the work. But because they want to maintain a certain lifestyle and status they shave as much as they can off their bottom-line.

If enough of this goes on eventually, (I think) we'll be in a Nation where there are only 2 classes: the rich and the poor. Offshore outsourcing has been responsible for loads of lay-offs and displaced workers. Some of these people have held these jobs for 20+ years and it's all they know. So where do they go? How do they survive? Meanwhile, the owners of these corporations are living lavish because now they can pay an employee $3-$5 an hour as opposed to $10 - $20. They've destroyed families and communities and couldn't care less. And that's not even touching on virtual jobs. Think about it.... Here's a new industry that has an enormous amount of growth potential. Loads of benefits as far as work-at-home moms, environmental (less cars on the road), and even more that I can't think of now. Yet, the industry gets a kick in the side because of the big-players being greedy. That's what it all boils down to IMO, greed. "I'll pay out as little as possible, so I can keep as much as possible." Yes, that's a good strategy but how much money do you really need to maintain a comfortable lifestyle? There are plenty ways to help third-world countries without crippling ourselves.

You all are right. It takes a messed up individual to do that with a clear conscience. But what I think needs to happen is people need to start to organize against this type of practice and take it to the White House steps. That may not help immediately but at least the word will be out because I don't think it's being talked about as widely as it should be. I mean we've heard about the walmart sweatshop scandal but after it all blew over everyone forgot. I think that was only scratching the surface. I don't think a lot of people realize what's happening. The scumbags that are doing it don't care.
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Originally Posted by eve_k0802 View Post
His blog is:

http://howtohireavirtualassistant.com/blog/?p=6
You'd think with all of that inexpensive VA help he's getting, he could have one of them create a nicer blog for him rather than his just using the default.

Okay - I admit it... MEOW!
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I'm thinking the gentleman from the blog would not be someone any of us would want to be working with in the first place.
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You're absolutely right. Not the kind of client I'd want. Plus, his great $3 an hour VA obviously doesn't proofread anything he writes. There was one post there that was chock full of spelling errors and typos. Or, maybe it is one of his VA's is posting it and they don't understand English as well as he claims they do!
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Didn't know how to edit original post.... For the ladies on here that are outside of the U.S. my comments were not negatively directed to you.

From what I can tell, most of the ladies here that are abroad are seeking wages that match the U.S. market which means we are all on a level playing field. So it doesn't matter if you in the U.S. or abroad. The issue IMO is, when someone is willing to accept wages that we here in the U.S. could in no way compete with or survive on. I hope I didn't offend anyone. It was def. not my intention.
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Has anyone else found that his blog is gone? Or at least that post is? lol
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OMG, you're right! It's gone! I wonder why he took it down?
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My guess is that he got an angry storm of VAs telling him he's an idiot.
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As a foreign VA I thought I would let you know that I didn't take offense but agree with what is said here.
Thanks Kylie. I was worried after I posted it that someone here might take offense, and that certainly wasn't my intention. I look at all of us, US, Canada, Australian, European VA's as being in a similar position when it comes to competing with outsourcing to Phillippines and India where the cost of living is obviously alot lower than ours. I think we all have comparable rates for our services and this type of thing can effect us all. Any mention I made to non-US VA's wasn't intended as an insult - I was really just responding to his post, and that was the way he and the other author kept phrasing it. Please accept my apologies if anyone was offended.

To make matters worse I just got a google alert with a press release for a company who offers VA's for $6.98 an hour. So it continues.

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