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Old 01-06-2011
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Default Can someone give me an example how you plan out and bill your time for each client?
how do you plan out each client tasks/workload? Is it first come first serve basis? or do you stop to do another client job, and how do you track/bill your time.
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This is a good question. I've been wondering how exactly everyone works for each client & how long they stay on that task until they move to a new one.
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how do you plan out each client tasks/workload? Is it first come first serve basis? or do you stop to do another client job, and how do you track/bill your time.

I'll try to give you an answer here. A lot of my answers come from past experience (either as a VA [the past year and a half] or my 20+ years' prior work experience and education) on how long certain types of tasks take when you're planning your days/weeks. Don't be discouraged if you don't have the past experience - you will do fine and learn how to develop your plan of attack. I still consider myself a "novice" of sorts as a VA, even though it's been a year and a half.

Others may do this differently (would love to hear what they do), but here is a rundown on my process:

Client A (a new client) contacts me for a website design. I know this will take more time to do, so we do the initial back and forth emails to get the ball rolling (contract, etc.). (There is time in between to fit other clients' tasks or projects if need be.)

Client B needs a document edited and proofed and ready to go by the next day. The document is 10 pages of non-technical content, so I have a general idea as to how long this will take. This is not a rush job. I put this on my calendar for 'X' time slot in the current day (or the next day).

Client C has a major problem. Their website is down and they don't know why. This IS a rush job, so if I was working on Client B, I set this aside knowing that I have enough time to get it done before their deadline of the following day. (Even if this means working "after hours" to finish up Client B to meet the deadline. At no "rush job" extra cost to Client B.)

Client D also has a major problem, too. They need a financial spreadsheet ASAP for their accountant and are emailing me the paperwork I need, so I can to do this right away. I tell them that I can do this, but it will be after hours when I can do it (remember Client C and website that is down?), and there will be an extra charge for this. They are fine with that.

Client E has a newsletter they want designed and coded, including images that I'll need to create. This is more time consuming, so I give them an estimated time that it will be completed. They want it sooner. So, I juggle working on two non-urgent tasks at the same time. I might get the newsletter layout template finished, then go back to the web design project and tackle some of their project specs. Then...you guessed it...back to the newsletter.

So, that is how I schedule my time. In the beginning it was a wee bit of a challenge, and I felt like I was meeting myself coming and going as I juggled things, but it is much better now. I didn't have all my processes down pat yet; now I am getting there - but it will always be a work in progress as I grow and find new ways to be more efficient with time management, etc.

One thing that is very helpful is using Microsoft OneNote. Each of my clients have their own section, some with subsection groups, and pages and sub-pages. I also subcontract for other VAs, so they each get their own section group with sections and pages for each of those clients. When I get an email from a client I add that to ON so that I have any special instructions, login info, etc. at my fingertips. (To be honest, sometimes I might forget to do this and it causes a major headache searching through a ton of email to find what I need - even though each client has their own Outlook folder!) I would be lost without OneNote!

I track my time using Timeless Time and Expense (it is not free). After trying a multitude of free and online software, I have used this for the past year and love it. It has a built in timer and a lot of flexibility for reporting. I can print my timesheets for various clients and email to them. Most often now, within about the last six months, I started using a big ole notebook (left-handed one at that - because I am left-handed when I write ). I then input my time to TT & E for those clients that I didn't use the timer for. TT & E also has an invoicing feature, but I use Peachtree Accounting so have no need for that.

Regarding the notebook, I tried various scheduling/calendar software, but find that I have my projects/tasks at a glance right in front of me now. If you don't want to go this route, there is a free calendar program called Mozilla Sunbird that is pretty cool that you can download and use on your computer.

As a VA, I find that I am always learning new things (I read a lot of books and visit a lot of websites to keep up on current trends in my niches). And there are always new ways to improve upon and implement processes that I have in place. Not sure you know how to do what a client needs? Tell them this is something new, but you would love to tackle it anyway - just make sure that you can actually deliver! E.g. don't offer to edit and proofread a medically technical document if you have absolutely no medical background. Or code an entire website if you have no idea what that even means.

Before I write a book here, I'm . I'm thinking this could be a nice future blog post.

HTH a bit,
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I also like OneNote but... I have only been in business since February of 2010 and have been experimenting with ways to improve my project management. I am undecided as of yet what I truly like. I have worked at keeping it all handwritten to typing it all. I have played around with AceProject.com and it is nice for a free online PM System, but this requires me to be online and uses more computer resources. I have also played quite a bit with OneNote and use it for some things like taking notes while on a call or if there is a big project. I have also played with using Outlook as opposed to OneNote. I like that it has the task feature and it creates a ToDo list for me once I have entered my tasks, and I am also able to assign those tasks to other VA's through Outlook with ease and get project updates that way as well.

The thing I don't like about online and OneNote is that it is another program that has to be open while I am working. I already use Outlook for email and calendar management and all of my Clients calendars sync with Outlook so it is very flexible for me and is always open.

As far as my timeline goes... I sort of do the same thing that Jules does with the balancing act. One thing that I do is I do have blocked off time on my calendar for those Clients who are on retainer or are a priority project. This reminds me not to schedule meetings or other appointments during that time frame and make myself available to them. If for some reason I do not have a project to do for them during that time slot then I will juggle things around and work on another project or take advantage of that time to do some personal things like laundry, etc. or to work on a project for myself such as my newsletter, etc.

I think because of the nature of our business it is difficult to create a truly great timeline that is set in stone as we are always changing tasks and tasks are always changing priority. So we have to be able to switch gears on a moments notice.

One thing you should always do is create a to do list for the following day the day before and remember to leave some time in between projects for breaks and to work on those projects that just pop in.
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I forgot to mention that I use TimeTracker to track my time. I wish outlook had a timer, but it doesn't. TimeTracker is a FREE desktop timer that I find quite easy to use. It also allows me to print or email time sheets to my clients.

As far as billing goes. I invoice by the minute and when I am ready to invoice I use Quick Books Online. I just copy paste everything from TT to my invoice and I have my rates, products and services pre-defined in Quick Books so I choose the service and then paste in the description from my TT and then add the hours in and I'm all set.

I also use a little refridgerator magnet that is a kitchen timer to help me stay on task. I find when I use it I work more efficiently. I set it for an hour and when that hour is up I stop what I'm doing.
I am not a bookkeeper though and I am actually working with a bookkeeper to help with my books. This is one expense I feel is well worth it as it I do not do books and you want your books to be done right.

As far as how do you decide which one to work on... you have to prioritize your projects. That's where a to do list will help you. You need to figure out how long a project will take you, consider when it is due, and when it needs to be started and then put them in order of priority and due dates and such. Does that make sense?

It is late and I'm afraid I'm babbling so I will stop now. LOL.
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I have MS One Note on my Windows laptop but I use my iMac for business. Do you know if there is a program like One Note for Mac?
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Ladies i extremely enjoy your post and it was vey helpful. To Business Bytes, this would be an excellent blog and when you make this blog please aware me so i can help you spread the word! I felt a little lost but now I do understand and its all about prioritizing!!!!! thanks again guys and feel free to add more!
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EverNote this link is for the Mac version. Have you tried that before. I know one VA who loves it. Hope that works out for you.
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Let's see what I can share.....

I try to maintain everything online. All of my intial client contact is tracked and managed use Highrise (a 37 signals product), once they sign the contract (using Echosign) I then open a project in Basecamp (another 37 signals product) and import their information into Freshbooks (which is connected to highrise). I use Basecamp to track everything for a client, this includes any notes specific about the client, logins, timeslines etc. I also create a Dropbox (www.dropbox.com) folder for each client to easily share files with the client. Freshbooks is used for my accounting and timetracking (which is connect also to Basecamp)

I work a bit differently that some other VAs as I always try to be working on bigger longer term projects vs the day to day tasks...most of my clients have another VA to handle those types of tasks. Most of my work is on the technical side of things and other than issues with a down site most things are not absolutely urgent.

It's easier to present a week to you so this is how the week goes...

Monday is a no communication kind of day, and I use it to set up my week. I also do marketing planning and taking care of any client projects that have been left over from the previous week. Since I use Freshbooks to track my time I use one of the add on widgets to track my time and it sits on my desktop. I can have multiple timers going at anytime and so if I need to jump from one client to another it's not too much of an issue.

Tuesday is often filled with client calls to touch base on the week and what we need to do, I try to schedule, most of my calls in the morning so I can leave my afternoons free to continue working on client projects.

Wednesday, might have a client call or two or maybe an initial consultation with a potential new client. I block my time in my calendar so I can focus on one client at any given time. I will also turn of any notifications, emails, social media so I can focus and concentrate on what needs to be done for that particular client.

Thursday is client projects and calls.

Friday is another not communication day generally and I use it to wrap the week and any outstanding projects for clients.

I try to do 90 percent of my communication by email or instant messaging so I have a record and am able to track my communications with a client.

Phew! That's a lot.
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Renee, that's a great synopsis of your week! It certainly gives me some ideas around structuring my own time!
Thanks, Barbara
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